NH OUTLOOK, Wednesday, 10/30/2002
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Hello. I'm Richard Ager sitting in for Allison McNair. Welcome to NH Outlook.
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The race for U-S Senate in New Hampshire is so close that not many people are hazarding a prediction. In the final days of campaigning both Congressman John E. Sununu and Governor Jeanne Shaheen are appealing for every vote in this extremely tight race. We have two profiles for you tonight, beginning with Allison McNair's profile of Jeanne Shaheen.
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NAT: T2; 2:20:13 When in the grocery store tell other people what's at stake in this race. Thank you so much for your endorsement and all your help. We only have 11 days to go and I will work my heart out.
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TRACK: with just over a week to go in the tight New Hampshire race for U-S Senate, democratic candidate Governor Jeanne Shaheen is working hard to get out the vote. On this last Saturday of October, despite rain and snow ,the Governor made the trip up north for a day of campaigning.
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TRACK: Her first stop - Conway - where she outlined her proposal to bring to bring federal tourism dollars to the state.
SOT: T1; 01:17:40 we do almost nothing at the federal level to promote travel and tourism.
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T1; 01:16:36 In terms of the amount of money each state gets that would be based on the percentage of promotion that is already underway in the state. So if we're currently spending five million dollars on travel and tourism and that's five percent of what's being spent nationally, we would receive five percent of that hundred million dollars.
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TRACK: Shaheen also touched on the importance of keeping the environment clean, so visitors will continue to come to the granite state. Although the focus was on travel and tourism - International concerns came up as well.
SOT: T1; 20:52IN man asks Should we invade Iraq? Should we maybe firm up our security at home first?
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21:52 I have supported the president in his efforts to disarm Iraq.
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I spent a lot of time talking to foreign policy experts about this issue and what I heard from all those experts is that Saddam Hussein is a threat, he's got the material and time to develop nuclear weapons and we cannot let that go unchallenged.
TRACK: When the Governor began her political career, the issues were much more local. In 1990, Shaheen was elected to the state senate for the first of three consecutive terms. Early on, she refused to be labeled.
SOT: LPA 100 22:15 ** I suggest that most of us here really are liberal on some issues and conservative on others. So trying to categorize all of us with labels is not really appropriate.
TRACK: Shaheen was elected as New Hampshire' first female governor in 1996 - defeating republican candidate Ovide Lamotagne. She held the corner office for two more terms defeating Jay Lucas in '98 and former U-S Senator Gordon Humphrey in 2000.
NAT/SOT: "we will solve the edu. Funding crisis this year"
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TRACK: Shaheen issued that directive in her 2001 innaugaral address. Just days later, she released a report from her blue ribbon commission which looked at the ways New Hampshire could pay for education. As a result, the Governor came out with her "Excel plan " - which created a new sales tax, while reducing property taxes. The proposal was soundly defeated by the House. Education funding and other state budget matters still come up - even now.
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From Sununu Ad
NAT/ AD: "it took three hundred years for the state to double its budget…"
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Republican ads have accused Shaheen of failed leadership.
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NAT/ AD MORE: "it took three hundred years for the state…"
The following bites seem very long
SOT: T3; 02:31:20
ALLY QUESTION HAVE YOU SEEN THAT ONE? I have and I thought the Concord Monitors analysis of that was good.- they called it, 'the big lie' and in fact that's what it is. What it points to is that the Supreme Court decision that said we had to fund Claremont differently is why the budget went up and when they said we had to adequately fund the cost of an adequate education that essentially doubled the state budget and we had to solve that. Refusing to do something about that was not an option but of course the ad doesn't point that out.
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T3; 32:10 New Hampshire is in fairly good shape compared to other states with billions of dollars of debt and I took action to address the budget deficit that we have. I issued five executive orders during my time as governor to cut the budget three for this biennium and we put more money in the rainy day fund during the last biennium than any other Governor in New Hampshire history- between those two things this budget will be balanced by the end of the biennium.
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TRACK: Shaheen is facing the tightest race in her career against congressman John E. Sununu..Poll ratings show it's a toss up. And because this election could affect control of the Senate, the race has drawn national attention.
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SOT: T2; 27:59 John Sununu is just wrong when he talks about that being what drove out health insurers. The fact is we've had consolidation throughout the health insurance market not just here in New Hampshire but in New England and throughout the country.
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SOT: I can guarantee you as I'm standing here today that without the governor's efforts in this we would not be here today because the mill would have not been sold and would have not been running so thank you govenor for your effort in that.
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TRACK: Eddie DeBlois heads the Berlin/ Gorham Mill Workers union, which has endorsed Shaheen for Senate. Just over one year ago - the owner of the mills, declared bankruptcy and the mills closed. That left over 800 people without work.
NAT/SOT: T2; 02:09:02 It's not about politics or big business- yeah business needs to survive but she cares about people and doing what's right for people she's proved that in the past year and a half. Her opponent is going to be harmful for the working class of New Hampshire and America and that's the reason why local 75 after years of not endorsing political candidates has decided that we would help Jeanne Shaheen win this election bring up next track
TRACK: The mill workers credit Shaheen for her pivotal role in finding a buyer for the mills and getting the Gorham paper facility back up and running.
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T2; 02:11:05 It was great to me as we drove up through Gorham to see the steam coming out of the mill. 02:11:11OUT
TRACK: Shaheen says this election against John Sununu offers some clear choices.
SOT: T3; 02:33:06 He's against a woman's right to choose- I'll protect a woman's right to choose. He not been good to support environmental issues- I've been very strong to make sure I keep this environment that we benefit from in New Hampshire beautiful I'll fight efforts to roll back the clean air act and the clean water act.
TRACK The candidates differ on social security too.
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The Governor's plan….in 15 years 14:25
SOT SHAHEEN AT MILL WORKERS SUPPORT RALLY
2:15 John Sununu wants to take a trillion dollars out of social security trust fund. The will do one of two things benefits will go down and taxes will go up.
TRACK: Shaheen also criticizes Sununu's position on a flat tax.
SOT: T2; 02:24:02 A flat tax by every analysis benefits people at the highest income levels. It would eliminate the proposal that John Sununu signed on to- It could eliminate the home mortgage interest deduction which has been so critical in helping people to afford homes and home ownership is one of the centerpieces of the American dream- we do need to simplify the tax code. I think we need to repeal the marriage penalty we need to close those offshire tax loopholes for the giant corporations but we shouldn't be giving people at the highest income levels bigger breaksand that's what his legislation would do.
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NAT: T1; shaheen tours clinic
SOT: T1; 1:13:03 It is the high cost of prescription drugs that is driving up the cost of healthcare.
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TRACK: At a recent news conference, Governor Shaheen said she would work to close the loopholes that allow drug companies to deduct the cost of advertising from their Federal taxes.
SOT: T1; 1:15:55 We pay twice- first when we pay for the medicine and second when they deduct it from our taxes.
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TRACK: With only a few days left in the close race for U-S Senate, Shaheen is hoping her bipartisan approach will help her win a seat in Washington.
SOT: T3; 34:19 If you look at my six years as Governor- I worked with republicans and democrats to get things done. If you look at John Sununu's record in Congress, he voted with his party over 90% of the time. He said time and again during the primary that he hasn't done anything that wasn't in the best interest of the republican party- well that's not what this race is about- It's not about the republican or democratic party- this race is about the people of New Hampshire and whose going to put them first.
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5:32 - 5:37
Soundup: Sununu runs tape 2 00:58:25 ** "How are you? Staying dry?" "Hey, I don't have a choice. I've got to campaign for the next 3 weeks whether I want to or not. John Sununu - I'd appreciate your vote."
Track: Foul weather or fair, in a tight race, every hand shaken, every voter looked in the eye can make a difference - and John E. Sununu is in the biggest race of his life.
Soundup: Sununu runs tape 2 00:47;05 * "Would you like me to take your picture with the pumpkin?" "That's all right." "John Sununu, I'm running for the U.S. Senate."
Track: A recent day of campaigning began with a debate at the Southern NH Jewish Men's club in Nashua.
Soundup: Sununu runs tape 1 00:08:05 I'll fight to preserve Social Security's guaranteed benefit….
Track: Sununu supports voluntary, private accounts as part of Social Security - but he accuses his opponent, Jeanne Shaheen, of scaremongering on the issue.
Bite: Sununu runs tape 1 00:20:20 Anyone who's looked at this problem should understand we're not going to change the benefit structure for anyone who's going to retire in the next 20 years. So why go into a retirement community and suggest to someone who is 75 years old that your opponent would do something to harm their social security check that they depend on, just to score political points.
Bite: Sununu runs tape 3 00:19:45 - GIVEN THE WAY THAT THE MARKET HAS HAD SOME TROUBLES OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS, DO YOU SEE ANY DANGERS IN ALLOWING OR ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO ESTABLISH PRIVATE FUNDS? Well, the people who demagogue this issue and suggest that we shouldn't allow individuals to have personal retirement account, I guess that means they don't think we should have IRA's or 401K's or any other investment vehicle that allows someone to put funds away for a rainy day.
Track: This race has attracted national attention because it could decide control of the Senate. On this day, Sununu took time out to do interviews with two reporters from Washington, one of them from USA Today.
Track: Sununu was being followed not only by reporters, but by Democratic Party polar bears, there to protest Sununu's vote to allow oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve.
Soundup: Sununu runs tape 2 00:41:12 ***"Polar bears don't live on land. They live on the pack ice."
Soundup: Sununu runs tape 2 00:48:50 ** at Langdon Place - keyboard player playing mellow tune …at fundraiser for Bea Francouer
Track: At a fundraiser for state senate candidate Bea Francouer, some folks took it easy, but for Sununu, it was a quick interlude before the next stop….
Soundup: Sununu runs tape 2 00:56:46 snowmobiles take off
Soundup: Sununu runs tape 2 00:54:26 ** 477 Reaction out of lane #1 - a 441 for Delorenzo"
Track: Even at an event dedicated to racing snowmobiles through mud and on water, some asked about issues like unequal pay for special education teachers.
Bite: Sununu runs tape 2 00:59:57 Their pay will vary 4-5 dollars an hour and it's whatever the district can pay, even though it's federal dollars that's paying these people. A portion of it is federal. What we need to do at the federal level is to get the federal govt. to pay its fair share.
Track: Sununu says the two biggest issues voters are talking about are the fight against terrorism and the economy. Sununu voted for the resolution authorizing President Bush to use force in Iraq, but he has also voiced concerns about how the war on terror is fought.
Bite: Sununu runs tape 3 00:10:50 We need to always be conscious of our constitutional rights, civil liberties, that we enjoy here in America, those are the things that are in some ways unique to America. We passed a patriot act early after Sept.11 that strengthens the hand of law enforcement, but one of those things that changed in the proposal from the president was a suggestion of allowing unlimited detentions. It don't think that's right, either you hold someone for a specified amount of time and then either you charge them with a crime or you identify them as a material witness to a crime. Unlimited detentions are not right, and that's one of the things we modified.
Track: Sununu maintains the key to economic recovery is continued tax reform and further tax cuts.
Standup: In 2001, Sununu was one of 6 sponsors of a flat tax bill intended "To promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity for families by reducing the power and reach of the federal establishment." The bill would have reduced the income tax to 17% but would have eliminated most deductions, including the deduction for home mortgage interest.
Bite: Sununu runs tape 3 00:02:35 People grow cynical when they see a tax code that's full of corporate loopholes, full of personal loopholes, where they feel there are two different systems that apply to different groups of people. That's not healthy. We can do better. We need to radically reform the tax code and I hope that will be a centerpiece of President Bush's budget when he submits it at the beginning of 2003.
Soundup: Democratic Sununu/ Bermuda ad
Track: Sununu says he would support measures penalizing companies that relocate off-shore, but adds the tax code is partly to blame.
Bite: Sununu runs tape 3 00:04:28 Well, if we have a more equitable tax system, companies will pay taxes, pay a fair share of taxes, for operations, and revenues, and earnings gained in the U.S. And in other countries, they'll pay equitable and fair taxes for revenues, and operations, and earnings in those areas. We need to make sure that we don't have great disparity and that we don't create incentives for corporations to go offshore in the first place.
Soundup: Sununu runs tape 1 00:08:00
Track: The Democrats have made much of Sununu's votes to protect patents including those held by pharmaceutical companies, but he says such criticism is short-sighted.
Bite: Sununu runs tape 3 00:07:40 If anyone has a loved one or a family member or a friend that has an illness for which there is no cure, they're not going to be cured by a generic drug, because generic companies don't do any research, they don't develop any new medicine. Parkinson's, diabetes, high blood pressure, chronic high blood pressure, these things will be cured ultimately by new drugs that we haven't even heard about yet. We need a fair patent system that encourages innovation; a system that isn't abused… The most important thing we can do, to deal with the cost of prescription drugs, is add a prescription drug benefit to Medicare.
Bite: Sununu runs tape 1 00:16:30 The govt. pays a portion of the costs up to $3700 and that for the average retiree, they'd see costs cut by about 40%. But then you target assistance to those on a fixed income. At 150% of poverty or less, you pay their premiums and their deductibles. So you make sure those on a fixed income get the most benefit.
Track: Jeanne Shaheen has attacked Sununu on social issues such as his opposition to abortion except in cases of rape, incest or risk to the mother's life.
Bite: Shaheen Kickoff tape 03:20:22 Make no mistake about it, John Sununu will support judges who want to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Bite: Sununu runs tape 3 00:23:53 - WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR OF SCREENING SUPREME COURT NOMINEES FOR THEIR VIEWS ON ROE V. WADE?
No I don't think there should be political test for judicial nominees, I think the key is qualification, background, experience, and proven ability to do an effective job in interpreting legal standards and the constitution.
Soundup: Smith Primary Night tape 2 23;58:10 The people in the Republican party have made a decision…
Track: If there is a wild card in this race, it may be the write-in campaign for the incumbent, Senator Bob Smith, whom Sununu defeated in the primary.
Bite: Smith Primary Night tape 23:55:45 It is very important that the President's agenda by completed and in order to do that, we have to have a Republican senate, so I will be looking forward to talking to John and wish him in the best in his ….
Track: Yet Smith declined President Bush's recent invitation to campaign with Sununu, and he has refused to speak out against the write-in campaign by his loyal supporters.
Smith Primary Night tape 00:02:05 "Thanks Bob." "No, thank you - you guys are the best…
Bite: Sununu runs tape 3 00:28:05 -I'LL JUST ASK YOU A YES OR A NO, IF YOU'RE WILLING, ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THE WRITE-IN POTENTIAL FOR SENATOR SMITH? I'm concerned abut every vote, this is NH, I won my first election by 616 votes, and everyone I meet, every vote I ask for, every hand I shake is important to me, and that will never change.
Track: At the end of this day, Sununu found a crowd he didn't need to worry about at a Republican fund-raiser in New Castle.
Bite: Sununu runs tape 3 00:17:37 Jeanne Shaheen is running an ad right now that John Sununu is a republican!. Its frankly a very misleading ad, b/c the question that I was asked was whether or not my whole campaign was bad for the republican party, and of course I said no its not bad for the republican party…
Sununu runs tape 3 00:18:27 - ***The question is why is Jeanne Shaheen so embarassed of being a democrat?
Track: For NH Outlook, I'm Richard Ager.
Soundup: Sununu runs tape 2 00:40:55 "Just want to say hello. John Sununu." "John Sununu." "Running for Senate. "
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Joining us to discuss the candidates for US Senate are Dante Scala from the Institute of Politics at Saint Anselm College, Andy Smith of the UNH Survey Center, and Mark Wrighton, political science professor at UNH. He's also the New Hampshire investigator for the Issue Advocacy project at Brigham Young University.
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1: What does this race look like now? Tossup?
2: Two very interesting phenomena. First - Dante, you credit Shaheen with running a pretty good campaign - but she is running uphill. What do you mean by that?
3: We see a net gain of voters for the Republicans - that exacerbates the issue.

4: The two have been locked in negative ad wars - who's doing a better job of negatively defining the other?
5: The issues of social security? Abortion?
6: Mark - you've done interviews for Dutch television, British newsmagazine the Economist and others - how crucial is this race to national ?
7: Question of independence - has Shaheen hurt Sununu on that? She seems to be the only Democrat who doesn't want an income tax - as even Craig Benson recently noted - and John Sununu voted 90plus % in line with his party.
Bush is coming Friday to boost Sununu - is that two-edged?
7: With a week to go - what is the strategy -
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On the next New Hampshire Outlook -
This year's moose hunt is over, but investigators tracking the great Northern mammals over the past year have made some interesting discoveries. Many calves have died this year from tick infestation. We'll see what else they've learned about moose in the Granite State.
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK AIR DATE/TIME: 10/30/02 22:00
HOST: Richard Ager LENGTH: 28:46 MINUTES
In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly new magazine, we continue our NH Votes 2002 coverage, with profiles of the U.S. Senate Candidates. Andy Smith of the UNH Survey Center, Dante Scala of the Institute of Politics at St. Anselm and UNH Political Science Professor Mark Wrighton join us for analysis.
PRODUCER/REPORTER: Richard Ager and Allison McNair
PARTICIPANTS:
Ed DeBlois\Millworkers Union Pres.
Rep. John E. Sununu\R - U.S. Senate Candidate
Gov. Jeanne Shaheen\D - U.S. Senate Candidate
Sen. Bob Smith\R - New Hampshire
Andy Smith\UNH Survey Center
\Dante Scala\NH Institute of Politics
Mark Wrighton\UNH Political Science
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